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southernpoofter
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As it sez in the title - how long should you be a trainee, everyones differnt & learns at their own pace.
years ago you were a trainee till your boss thought you were worth spending money on & investing in you without wasting his time/money.the trainees tckt was open ended with no time scale, so it could be on average 5 years b4 getting put through...with time came the experiance,then the ticket,then the higher pay.but now thats all gone to fcuk with the self financing zero to hero in 18 month & the new rules which i've just found out about which are designed to push guys through in a short time at a huge cost.
I've normally found it takes a good 5-7 years on the job to be a fairly accomplished if not fully competant scaff where as a boss i could start earning decent money off their work, the first few years you may brake even if your lucky so it can be quite an investment over time.
now ive got a guy who may not be the brightest in the world or tbh the most reliable but he's been on with me for about 4 years in which time i've where i could train him up or put him in a crew where he could learn whilst being a labourer - so i got his trainees card,which is now just about to expire . So contacted citb to be told that even though as an advanced & smsts along with a mass of other quals & ticket along wiv nearly 30 years in the game - i could give a toolbox talk but not the cots -so yesterday i sent him to erith for his cots(£130) so i could renew his trainees tckt for another 18 months with a view to putting him through his pt1 in the spring.
Bad call from citb 2day to say they wouldnt renew his trainees tckt & he'd have to go back to a labourers card ( resticted work & limited site skills) the reason why? -he hadnt started his formal training within the 18months on his card - i tried to reason that not only had i done this b4 but surely you would have assumed their own new cots couse must be deemed as formal training wouldnt you-apparently not,so now i gotta send him off for his pt1 asap , as without it he cant really even get off the ground which tbh is just downrite stupid in our game.not only dont i think he's ready for his tckt but the thought of spending another 2k on him b4 being able to recoup it through his working ability makes me wonder why this system is so fcuked up.....i wouldnt sack him or replace him as he's been far to loyal for that. But what a joke that our so called governing body & training system cant see that all they're doing is filling their quotas by putting inexperiance kids on the scaffold to the detrement of our industry, but the financial benefit of the training centres .
I truely beleave this tckt system needs to be reviewed b4 in their rush to push novices into a well paid career their blantent disreguard for experiance over qualifications & their constant money for tckt making scams will make this allready dangerous trade allmost too difficult to attract new blood.
years ago you were a trainee till your boss thought you were worth spending money on & investing in you without wasting his time/money.the trainees tckt was open ended with no time scale, so it could be on average 5 years b4 getting put through...with time came the experiance,then the ticket,then the higher pay.but now thats all gone to fcuk with the self financing zero to hero in 18 month & the new rules which i've just found out about which are designed to push guys through in a short time at a huge cost.
I've normally found it takes a good 5-7 years on the job to be a fairly accomplished if not fully competant scaff where as a boss i could start earning decent money off their work, the first few years you may brake even if your lucky so it can be quite an investment over time.
now ive got a guy who may not be the brightest in the world or tbh the most reliable but he's been on with me for about 4 years in which time i've where i could train him up or put him in a crew where he could learn whilst being a labourer - so i got his trainees card,which is now just about to expire . So contacted citb to be told that even though as an advanced & smsts along with a mass of other quals & ticket along wiv nearly 30 years in the game - i could give a toolbox talk but not the cots -so yesterday i sent him to erith for his cots(£130) so i could renew his trainees tckt for another 18 months with a view to putting him through his pt1 in the spring.
Bad call from citb 2day to say they wouldnt renew his trainees tckt & he'd have to go back to a labourers card ( resticted work & limited site skills) the reason why? -he hadnt started his formal training within the 18months on his card - i tried to reason that not only had i done this b4 but surely you would have assumed their own new cots couse must be deemed as formal training wouldnt you-apparently not,so now i gotta send him off for his pt1 asap , as without it he cant really even get off the ground which tbh is just downrite stupid in our game.not only dont i think he's ready for his tckt but the thought of spending another 2k on him b4 being able to recoup it through his working ability makes me wonder why this system is so fcuked up.....i wouldnt sack him or replace him as he's been far to loyal for that. But what a joke that our so called governing body & training system cant see that all they're doing is filling their quotas by putting inexperiance kids on the scaffold to the detrement of our industry, but the financial benefit of the training centres .
I truely beleave this tckt system needs to be reviewed b4 in their rush to push novices into a well paid career their blantent disreguard for experiance over qualifications & their constant money for tckt making scams will make this allready dangerous trade allmost too difficult to attract new blood.