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Note to all members, the following questionnaire has been produced by Ragscaff to help with a meeeting the SF Committee For Consultation Rights are to have with the HSE to get an involvement in SG5.

This means YOU can have a say!! Please find the time to fill it in as soon as possible.

We need ALL active members to complete it. The form will not contain any personal details at all.

To fill in the questionnaire simply;

1. Copy the questions (CTRL+C) or right click and then copy
2. Paste the questions into a new post (CTRL+V) or right click and then paste
3. Fill in the questions in that post
4. Submit the post.

Or download the attachment (Which can be found at the bottom of this post) and then upload the document in a new post by clicking on the paperclip.

Ask if you need any help!

Sorry for the previous problems.


1. Please Highlight Your Work Status

Labourer

Scaffolder

Chargehand

Supervisor

Management


2. Please Highlight Type of Work Undertaken

Domestic

Industrial

Specialist

Offshore


Training



3. Do You Think Training Is Sufficient In The Scaffolding Industry?

4. Would You Like To See Full Apprenticeship Brought In?

5. What Would You Change In Regards To CISRS?




Advanced Rails

6. Do You Use a Step Up?


7. Have You Had Any Accidents Using a Step Up?

8. Are You Happy With This Method?


9. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?





10. Do You Use The Tunnelling Method?

11. Have You Had Any Accidents Using The Tunnelling Method?​

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12. Are You Happy With This Method?

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13. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?


14. Do You Use Advanced Guard Rails?


15. Have You Had Any Accidents Using Advanced Guard Rails?​

16. Are You Happy With This Method?


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17. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?




18. If You Were Able To Suggest Any Improvements In Your Working Day To The HSE What Would You Say?




Thank you for giving up your time to answer these questions. We will keep you posted on the meeting we are going to have with the HSE & other topics can be raised at future meetings.

This is a unique opportunity for the main on the ground to be involved


Regards


SF Committee For Consultation Rights



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survey

SF Admin said:
Note to all members, the following questionnaire has been produced by Ragscaff to help with a meeeting the SF Committee For Consultation Rights are to have with the HSE to get an involvement in SG5.


This means YOU can have a say!! Please find the time to fill it in as soon as possible.

We need ALL active members to complete it. The form will not contain any personal details at all.

With all due respect to Ragscaff, for his survey, and SF admin, for the administration of the survey, there seems a problem in being able to actually complete and submit this survey.

I have noticed there has been numerous views to the thread, and yet no respondents.


I have tried several methods to complete the survey, Highlight, as stated, copy and paste,multi quote, quote, all to no avail.

Sincerely
Paddy​
Click to expand...
 
Paddy

I have sent the questionnaire in a word format. It was all in boxes etc. I will ask Adimin if it can be added as a link then pasted & posted. Due to the time scale being tight I will ask for the meeting to be on the 26th May. As yet it is just me & admin attending with no suggested venues!!

This is very important to our industry & livelihoods

Ragscaff
:sad2:
 
Stewart, mate

I was originally commited up to the 27th may, now i am free from the 22nd,albeit, i will have to take a day off work.

I realise this could be a turnining point within the scaffolding community, and could be a monumentus achievement, regarding the consultation rights, of worker involvement, so advertised within the HSE agenda.

Right Lads, this is your chance, instead of whispering up your sleeves, or whingeing over a pint, nail your colours to the mast, and support the committee for consultation rights.

A Venue,proposed, would be appreciated, as a HSE meeting in a phonebox, with all interested parties, representing over 1,050 scaffolders, isnt the way forward in my view.

We are Scaffs same as you's support us, and let us know what we can do.

Paddy
 
Hi All

I can now see the problem.

I have realised that it is not possible to use the quote function, as you are simply adding to the quote rather than writing a new post.

Therefore you need to

1. Copy the questions (CTRL+C) or right click and then copy
2. Paste the questions into a new post (CTRL+V) or right click and then paste
3. Fill in the questions in that post
4. Submit the post.

I have also attached the original word document, which can be found at the bottom of the first post

Sorry for the previous problems.

Regards

SF Admin
 
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Scaffolders questionaire completed

Completed questionaire
 

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Survey.

1. Please Highlight Your Work Status

Labourer

Scaffolder

Chargehand

Supervisor

Management


2. Please Highlight Type of Work Undertaken

Domestic
Industrial

Specialist

Offshore


Training



3. Do You Think Training Is Sufficient In The Scaffolding Industry?
Could be improved.
4. Would You Like To See Full Apprenticeship Brought In?
Yes definately.Some people get their cards far too easily and quickly.
5. What Would You Change In Regards To CISRS?
Too easy to get on 1st rung of the ladder.



Advanced Rails

6. Do You Use a Step Up?
yes

7. Have You Had Any Accidents Using a Step Up?
no.
8. Are You Happy With This Method?
Its ok, but laughable that you clip on to the ledger behind you, PUZZLES ME.

9. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?
Barely off the deck, so yes.




10. Do You Use The Tunnelling Method? Yes

11. Have You Had Any Accidents Using The Tunnelling Method? No.

12. Are You Happy With This Method? Yes

13. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? Yes.


14. Do You Use Advanced Guard Rails? NO


15. Have You Had Any Accidents Using Advanced Guard Rails? na

16. Are You Happy With This Method? na


17. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? na




18. If You Were Able To Suggest Any Improvements In Your Working Day To The HSE What Would You Say? 30MINS BREAK DURING AN 8HR WORKING DAY IS NOT ENOUGH. (ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE BEEN PULLING YOUR PUDDINGS OUT) AN EXTRA 10MINS BY LAW WOULD BE NICE, AND YES, I HAVE HAD TO WORK TO THIS RULE OFTEN ENOUGH.
 
Questions

1. Please Highlight Your Work Status

Labourer

Scaffolder

Chargehand YES

Supervisor

Management


2. Please Highlight Type of Work Undertaken

Domestic

Industrial YES

Specialist YES

Offshore


Training



3. Do You Think Training Is Sufficient In The Scaffolding Industry? NO

4. Would You Like To See Full Apprenticeship Brought In? YES

5. What Would You Change In Regards To CISRS? Nothing




Advanced Rails

6. Do You Use a Step Up? YES


7. Have You Had Any Accidents Using a Step Up? NO

8. Are You Happy With This Method? YES


9. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? YES





10. Do You Use The Tunnelling Method? NO

11. Have You Had Any Accidents Using The Tunnelling Method? NO

12. Are You Happy With This Method? NO

13. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? If i did chose to use it and i have in the past then YES


14. Do You Use Advanced Guard Rails? NO , not at my current company i have at previous companies .


15. Have You Had Any Accidents Using Advanced Guard Rails? NO

16. Are You Happy With This Method? NO


17. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? NO, on some advanced guardrail systems you can have gaps in it .




18. If You Were Able To Suggest Any Improvements In Your Working Day To The HSE What Would You Say? To have monthly meeting's with scaffolders to talk to the men who do scaffolding everyday rather than MD's and owners on improvement's and new legislation
 
1. Please Highlight Your Work Status

Labourer

Scaffolder

Chargehand

Supervisor

Management


2. Please Highlight Type of Work Undertaken

Domestic

Industrial

Specialist

Offshore


Training



3. Do You Think Training Is Sufficient In The Scaffolding Industry?

Yes but the NVQ portfolios need to be replaced with actual work place assessment by external assessors

4. Would You Like To See Full Apprenticeship Brought In?

Yes also a provision for older workers say over 25 with 3yrs verifiable experience to be assessed and allowed to undertake part 2 training without doing the part 1 .

5. What Would You Change In Regards To CISRS?

Incorporate system training to part 1 and 2 T&F and abolish system only cards.




Advanced Rails

6. Do You Use a Step Up?

Yes


7. Have You Had Any Accidents Using a Step Up?

No

8. Are You Happy With This Method?

Yes


9. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?

Yes





10. Do You Use The Tunnelling Method?

Yes

11. Have You Had Any Accidents Using The Tunnelling Method?

No

12. Are You Happy With This Method?

Yes

13. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?

Yes


14. Do You Use Advanced Guard Rails?

Yes


15. Have You Had Any Accidents Using Advanced Guard Rails?

No

16. Are You Happy With This Method?

No


17. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?

No




18. If You Were Able To Suggest Any Improvements In Your Working Day To The HSE What Would You Say?

Hard hats supplied to scaffolders should be "fit for purpose" ie peak less with a ratchet adjuster or chin strap to prevent nodding off.

Footnote: I do appreciate NASC have a role to play however there latest claim that the represent OVER 75% of our industry is total fantasy .
 
1. Please Highlight Your Work Status

Labourer

Scaffolder

Chargehand

Supervisor

Management


2. Please Highlight Type of Work Undertaken

Domestic

Industrial

Specialist

Offshore


Training



3. Do You Think Training Is Sufficient In The Scaffolding Industry?

No, cards are attained too easily and quickly.

4. Would You Like To See Full Apprenticeship Brought In?

Yes.

5. What Would You Change In Regards To CISRS?

Combine system into part 1 and 2. More emphasis on working ability of trainees. Cards to be awarded on actual ability rather than course work.




Advanced Rails

6. Do You Use a Step Up?

Yes


7. Have You Had Any Accidents Using a Step Up?

No (Not Yet)

8. Are You Happy With This Method?

No


9. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?

Undecided





10. Do You Use The Tunnelling Method?

Yes, where practical

11. Have You Had Any Accidents Using The Tunnelling Method?

No


12. Are You Happy With This Method?

Yes

13. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?

Yes


14. Do You Use Advanced Guard Rails?

Not system guardrails


15. Have You Had Any Accidents Using Advanced Guard Rails?

n/a
16. Are You Happy With This Method?

n/a



17. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?

n/a



18. If You Were Able To Suggest Any Improvements In Your Working Day To The HSE What Would You Say?

Consultation with scaffolders/supervisors within scaffolding industry regarding WAHR. Greater enforcement/monitoring of SG4:05. Review practicality of Advanced guardrails/step ups.
 
1. Please Highlight Your Work Status

Labourer

Scaffolder Yes

Chargehand

Supervisor

Management


2. Please Highlight Type of Work Undertaken

Domestic Yes

Industrial

Specialist

Offshore


Training



3. Do You Think Training Is Sufficient In The Scaffolding Industry? No

4. Would You Like To See Full Apprenticeship Brought In? Yes

5. What Would You Change In Regards To CISRS? the Assessed route of entry route returned, System scaffolding card removed, System added with T&F and the portfolio/assessment criteria reviewed.




Advanced Rails

6. Do You Use a Step Up? Yes


7. Have You Had Any Accidents Using a Step Up? 1 near miss, when the cantilevered leg came off the std, (my fault didnt check).

8. Are You Happy With This Method? No


9. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? Yes





10. Do You Use The Tunnelling Method? Used to

11. Have You Had Any Accidents Using The Tunnelling Method? No


12. Are You Happy With This Method? Yes


13. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? Yes


14. Do You Use Advanced Guard Rails? No


15. Have You Had Any Accidents Using Advanced Guard Rails? N/A

16. Are You Happy With This Method? N/A



17. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? N/A




18. If You Were Able To Suggest Any Improvements In Your Working Day To The HSE What Would You Say? The right to be involved in the Risk Assessment process and SSOW/Method statement process.




Thank you for giving up your time to answer these questions. We will keep you posted on the meeting we are going to have with the HSE & other topics can be raised at future meetings.

This is a unique opportunity for the main on the ground to be involved


Regards


SF Committee For Consultation Rights





 
1. Please Highlight Your Work Status

Labourer

Scaffolder

Chargehand

Supervisor

Management


2. Please Highlight Type of Work Undertaken

Domestic

Industrial

Specialist

Offshore


Training



3. Do You Think Training Is Sufficient In The Scaffolding Industry? NO
ITS TOO EASY TO GAIN YOUR PART 2 & ADVANCED CARDS, IT TOOK ME OVER 10 YEARS FOR MY ADVANCED, I THINK 10 YEARS CHECKABLE SCAFFOLDING EXPERIENCE IS THE MINIMUM.

4. Would You Like To See Full Apprenticeship Brought In? YES

5. What Would You Change In Regards To CISRS?
SEEMS NOW BEING AN ADVANCED CARD HOLDER IS NOT ENOUGH, NOW YOU NEED ALL THE SYSTEM STUFF ON YOUR CARD, I HAVE WORKED WITH MOST SYSTEM SCAFFOLDING IN MY TIME, I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BE ASSESED ON YOUR PART 2 FOR SYSTEM.




Advanced Rails

6. Do You Use a Step Up? NOT TRIED THEM YET


7. Have You Had Any Accidents Using a Step Up? N/A

8. Are You Happy With This Method? N/A


9. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? N/A





10. Do You Use The Tunnelling Method? YES

11. Have You Had Any Accidents Using The Tunnelling Method? NO

12. Are You Happy With This Method? YES

13. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? YES


14. Do You Use Advanced Guard Rails? NOT TRIED THEM YET


15. Have You Had Any Accidents Using Advanced Guard Rails? N/A

16. Are You Happy With This Method? N/A


17. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? N/A




18. If You Were Able To Suggest Any Improvements In Your Working Day To The HSE What Would You Say?
I THINK AN ALTERNATIVE TO LIGHT EYE PROTECTION FOR SCAFFOLDERS NEEDS TO BE FOUND, THEY FOG UP TOO EASILY, TWIN TAIL HARNESSES ARE TOO CUMBERSOME & HEAVY, ON A 10 HOUR DAY OR LONGER A STATUTORY BREAK IN THE AFTERNOON NEEDS TO BE INTRODUCED.




Thank you for giving up your time to answer these questions. We will keep you posted on the meeting we are going to have with the HSE & other topics can be raised at future meetings.

This is a unique opportunity for the main on the ground to be involved


Regards


SF Committee For Consultation Rights
 
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1. Please Highlight Your Work Status

Labourer

Scaffolder

Chargehand Yes

Supervisor Yes

Management


2. Please Highlight Type of Work Undertaken

Domestic Yes

Industrial Yes

Specialist Yes

Offshore


Training



3. Do You Think Training Is Sufficient In The Scaffolding Industry?

No

4. Would You Like To See Full Apprenticeship Brought In?

Yes

5. What Would You Change In Regards To CISRS?

Extend the time between cards etc & increase companies responsibility with in house training.




Advanced Rails

6. Do You Use a Step Up?

No

7. Have You Had Any Accidents Using a Step Up?

N/A

8. Are You Happy With This Method?

No

9. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?

N/A But from what I have seen No




10. Do You Use The Tunnelling Method?

Yes

11. Have You Had Any Accidents Using The Tunnelling Method?

No

12. Are You Happy With This Method?

Yes

13. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?

Yes

14. Do You Use Advanced Guard Rails?

No

15. Have You Had Any Accidents Using Advanced Guard Rails?

N/A

16. Are You Happy With This Method?

No


17. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?

No I would'nt



18. If You Were Able To Suggest Any Improvements In Your Working Day To The HSE What Would You Say?

Try & get the Contract companies to follow our regs, Trust us on our job let us work to our method statements & let us do our job!! It is dangerous to try & work with eyes in the back of our heads!!!! :D:D


Thank you for giving up your time to answer these questions. We will keep you posted on the meeting we are going to have with the HSE & other topics can be raised at future meetings.

This is a unique opportunity for the main on the ground to be involved


Regards
 
1. Please Highlight Your Work Status

Labourer

Scaffolder:Yes

Chargehand

Supervisor

Management


2. Please Highlight Type of Work Undertaken

Domestic

Industrial

Specialist: Yes

Offshore


Training



3. Do You Think Training Is Sufficient In The Scaffolding Industry? No

4. Would You Like To See Full Apprenticeship Brought In? Yes

5. What Would You Change In Regards To CISRS? nothing




Advanced Rails

6. Do You Use a Step Up? Yes


7. Have You Had Any Accidents Using a Step Up? No

8. Are You Happy With This Method? Yes


9. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? Yes





10. Do You Use The Tunnelling Method? Used to do

11. Have You Had Any Accidents Using The Tunnelling Method? No


12. Are You Happy With This Method? Yes


13. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? Yes


14. Do You Use Advanced Guard Rails? No


15. Have You Had Any Accidents Using Advanced Guard Rails? No

16. Are You Happy With This Method? No



17. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? No




18. If You Were Able To Suggest Any Improvements In Your Working Day To The HSE What Would You Say?

Try speaking to the workforce and ask them their opinions and not just the managements, then maybe we can make things work better for all of us.
 
(1) scaffolder
(2) domestic,industrial
(3) no
(4) yes
(5) annual refresher
(6) no
(7) no
(8) no
(9) no
(10) yes
(11) no
(12) yes
(13) yes
(14) no
(15) no
(16) no
(17) no
(18) let us police ourselves as we all know personally what we can do safely,
and bring in on spot fines for nob heads who take ties out or remove hand rails:)
hope this is ok as i couldnt do it as requested cheers h:)
 
1. Please Highlight Your Work Status

Labourer

Scaffolder

Chargehand -Yes

Supervisor

Management


2. Please Highlight Type of Work Undertaken

Domestic

Industrial

Specialist

Offshore-Yes


Training



3. Do You Think Training Is Sufficient In The Scaffolding Industry?-Yes

4. Would You Like To See Full Apprenticeship Brought In?I did three years so what is a full apprenticeship??

5. What Would You Change In Regards To CISRS? Just done my advanced course and think the CITB,CISRS and NASC need to think about getting shot of NVQ'S more on the job Assessments would be better for candidates.




Advanced Rails

6. Do You Use a Step Up?-
No

7. Have You Had Any Accidents Using a Step Up?
No
8. Are You Happy With This Method?
???

9. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?
as above only done 5 minute's of it on advanced course??




10. Do You Use The Tunnelling Method?
No

11. Have You Had Any Accidents Using The Tunnelling Method?
No

12. Are You Happy With This Method?
??

13. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?
??

14. Do You Use Advanced Guard Rails?
No

15. Have You Had Any Accidents Using Advanced Guard Rails?
No
16. Are You Happy With This Method?

Never used advanced guard rails

17. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?

As above??


18. If You Were Able To Suggest Any Improvements In Your Working Day To The HSE What Would You Say?
All the governing bodies through out the industry need to get together and start listening to the work force they are ment to represent. At the end of the day the governing bodies is full of men in suits not men in spanners???????
 
Sorry I took so long folks.

1. Please Highlight Your Work Status

Labourer

Scaffolder

Chargehand

Supervisor

Management


2. Please Highlight Type of Work Undertaken

Domestic

Industrial

Specialist

Offshore


Training



3. Do You Think Training Is Sufficient In The Scaffolding Industry? No

4. Would You Like To See Full Apprenticeship Brought In? Yes

5. What Would You Change In Regards To CISRS?
Re-introduce the Assessed route of entry, Change the final assessment of the part 2 to more than just one erect/dismantle as it shows too little of the candidate's abilities. The system qualifications are next to useless as there are far too many proprietary systems out there for anyone to ever be ualified in all of them so should be removed and perhaps companies responsible for training/competency in their own system




Advanced Rails

6. Do You Use a Step Up?No


7. Have You Had Any Accidents Using a Step Up?

8. Are You Happy With This Method?


9. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?





10. Do You Use The Tunnelling Method?Yes

11. Have You Had Any Accidents Using The Tunnelling Method? No


12. Are You Happy With This Method?Very


13. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?Yes


14. Do You Use Advanced Guard Rails?No


15. Have You Had Any Accidents Using Advanced Guard Rails?

16. Are You Happy With This Method?



17. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method?




18. If You Were Able To Suggest Any Improvements In Your Working Day To The HSE What Would You Say?
 
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1. Please Highlight Your Work Status

Labourer

Scaffolder

Chargehand

Supervisor

Management


2. Please Highlight Type of Work Undertaken

Domestic

Industrial

Specialist

Offshore

Training

3. Do You Think Training Is Sufficient In The Scaffolding Industry?
No

4. Would You Like To See Full Apprenticeship Brought In?
Yes

5. What Would You Change In Regards To CISRS?

Re adopt assessed route,with longer period of time between assessments


6. Do You Use a Step Up? No

7. Have You Had Any Accidents Using a Step Up? N/A

8. Are You Happy With This Method? N/A

9. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? N/A


10. Do You Use The Tunnelling Method?Yes

11. Have You Had Any Accidents Using The Tunnelling Method? No

12. Are You Happy With This Method? Yes

13. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? Yes


14. Do You Use Advanced Guard Rails? No

15. Have You Had Any Accidents Using Advanced Guard Rails? N/A

16. Are You Happy With This Method? N/A

17. Do You Feel Safe Using This Method? N/A


18. If You Were Able To Suggest Any Improvements In Your Working Day To The HSE What Would You Say? Be more vigilant in checking scaffolders qualifications and make up of gangs,crack down on P.C. who do not keep up to date scaffold registers,That disiplinary action be taken against any person (competant or otherwise) that alters or modifies scaffolds without the permission of the scaffold contractor or representative on site
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Please mark the right hand column with your work status Mark one only
Labourer
Scaffolder
Chargehand
Supervisor
Management 1
Type of work Undertaken Mark more than one if needed
Domestic 1
Industrial 1
Specialist 1
Off Shore

Training Yes or no
Do you think current training is sufficient of the Industry? Y
Would you like to see full apprentices brought in.? Y
What would you change in regards to CISRS?
A Vetting on actual record of work to include Company Data on time in service.







Fill in answer
Below Question

Advanced Rails Yes or No
Do you use a step up? N
Had any accidents with this? N/A
Are you happy with this method? N/A
Do you feel safe? N/A

Do you use the tunnelling method? N/A
Had any accidents with this? N/A
Are you happy with this method? N/A
Do you feel safe? N/A

Do you use advanced guard rails? N
Had any accidents with this? N/A
Are you happy with this method? N/A
Do you feel safe? N/A


If you were able to suggest any improvements in your working day to the HSE what would you say?
That inspector’s who carry out inspections on scaffolding should be from a scaffolding back round.
As we all know that falls from height are regarded as the main type of accident in construction industry and that once a scaffold it put up on a site it becomes a flag for inspection but other trades and areas of work is overlooked.

Also a scaffold being a temporary structure the inspections carried out on staging/events is a temporary structure well I think same rules should apply, I work on some of the staging last summer and it was back to runners and t-shirts with agency labour erecting/dismantle system scaffold with claw hammers and vice grips??























Thank you for your time in filling in this form. We will keep you posted on the meetings we are going to have with the HSE & other topics can be raised at future meetings. This is a unique opportunity for the man on the ground to be involved.
 
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