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    just want some advice guys.

    i have just found out today,
    the guy who is running a site i am on,
    only has his BASIC card.

    i have an ADVANCED ticket,
    so if there was an accident
    who will be in court in the dock,
    me,him or the company.

    im not sure how he has managed swindle this job but he has.

    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by mightymouse View Post
    just want some advice guys.

    i have just found out today,
    the guy who is running a site i am on,
    only has his BASIC card.

    i have an ADVANCED ticket,
    so if there was an accident
    who will be in court in the dock,
    me,him or the company.

    im not sure how he has managed swindle this job but he has.

    thanks
    normally its the company for selecting him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightymouse View Post
    just want some advice guys.

    i have just found out today,
    the guy who is running a site i am on,
    only has his BASIC card.

    i have an ADVANCED ticket,
    so if there was an accident
    who will be in court in the dock,
    me,him or the company.

    im not sure how he has managed swindle this job but he has.

    thanks
    Doe's it not say that in certain situations a basic scaffolder must work under supervision of an advanced scaffolder. Company must not know, or are ignoring the rules.

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    Dependent on the severity of the accident, ultimately the company director is the one responsible for all matters of health and safety of operatives working under him. So if it comes to a corporate manslaughter, its him in the dock.

    By basic I take it you mean blue card CISRS, not the red trainee card?
    If thats the case he is ok to run a site on paper anyway, we all know that counts for squat as it should be carded and experienced.
    If he's on a red trainee card then your right, no-way should he be in charge, regardless of experience levels.
    Next in line for the chop would be supervisors, if there are any, for failing to supervise the operatives on site sufficiently.
    Basically, a court would see it that work crews must be supervised at all times. Which is the way all the major contractors are moving.

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    Who is signing the jobs off- you or him..

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    he signs them off,he does everything with regards to the scaffold,
    except erect it
    he thinks he is too good to get the tools on
    when in reality he knows feck all
    good with paperwork i was told thats it.
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    I could be wrong but is it not as long as the job's you are building are basic and don't go beyond the scope of basic training he is well within his rights to sign these jobs over?

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    they are defo not basic scaffolds,we are doing a gantry and done 4 hangers,all of which he has signed off
    i know what your saying tho,which is right
    as long as he is only supervising basic scaffolds he is ok.
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    May be thats why your gaffer has put you on the the job because your advanced and he's basic,it covers the company if anyone comes askin questions,as for who ends up in court in an accident you all will be questioned by the hse either under caution or formally,both are horrendous.

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    Just watch yer ar5e mate,they sound like they are using your ticket to cover him for signing and tagging the jobs,does he hold an inspection ticket,or just the basic scaffs ticket...another so called competent ar5ebag unable to legally do the correct job required as usual..sign sweet FA mate and keep the ball in his court,after all he will be getting paid for it.

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