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    to be honest, i didn't go back to do my part 2 till around TG20-08 was coming in so didnt know the handrail height had changed (working for a smaller street firm) and as usual, walk out the door of the centre and forget the majority of what id learnt as i didnt use it, no thinking just doing!

    I try to take a bit more of an interest in it now, getting older cant stay on the tools forever!

    I really cant see it changing back although things did seem to be easier, but that was pre-Facebook!

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    Has anyone bought the TG20:13 Guide to Good Practice for Tube and Fitting Scaffolding (Full Suite). Is it worth the cost for a small company.

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    Hold fire the new TG20 version will be along soon.

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    ALL, scaffolds should designed. That is the recommendation and good practice. Not law, but if something goe wrong and you're stood in front of the man in the curly wig. Try explaining why youy ddn't follow TG20

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaffcon View Post
    to be honest, i didn't go back to do my part 2 till around TG20-08 was coming in so didnt know the handrail height had changed (working for a smaller street firm) and as usual, walk out the door of the centre and forget the majority of what id learnt as i didnt use it, no thinking just doing!

    I try to take a bit more of an interest in it now, getting older cant stay on the tools forever!

    I really cant see it changing back although things did seem to be easier, but that was pre-Facebook!
    I would say6 there are many, many scaffolders, me included, that really only took onboard TG20, SG4 etc once off the tools....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoko View Post
    ALL, scaffolds should designed. That is the recommendation and good practice. Not law, but if something goe wrong and you're stood in front of the man in the curly wig. Try explaining why youy ddn't follow TG20
    The Work at Height Regs says that all scaffolds should be designed unless built to a generally recognised configuration, which is TG20, so i would say that it is law?

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    Just to help me, how many scaffolds have failed in the UK since 2005 (when NASC first published their design guidance)? On how many of those failures was there no design? I am asking because I suspect that the main cause of failure is not the poor or missing design but an operational issue on a designed or compliant scaffold. For instance leaving out or prematurely removing the ties or putting the wrong beams in the scaffold without anyone noticing are pretty common errors.

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    Totally agree

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    I have already mentioned this to parliment but the problem you have is that the nasc may lobby against all that. Reading through the thread all i have to say is that the law takes preaident over any codes of practice or practice.but you must show the scaffold is erected to a recognised standard which is acknowleged by the industry..the law say structural calculations. Tg 20 gives you that basic design without calcs this is the same principle as the old 5973 but in a different format etc. Tg20 os trying to give you solutions without the calculations as they say they have these calcs some where..so these are generic designs based on different factors. Which i was told by one of the top designers in the uk that this is not allowed.

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    Something i would like to add...the tg20 is not law it is not written in any regulation so if someone else wanted to develop a guidance for scaffolding this woukd be acceptable ..you can not copyright physics or maths. Some companies have their own scaffolding design solution for works on oil and gas plants and why not..im currently developing something which will help everyone.

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