Scaffolders Study Group

> 6,000 rusty clips

a lot of them were antiques. Very heavy, very stiff.

PS I tried to upload a group of photos. It seems to want them one at a time.
 
yes mate one pic at a time

you must be reffering to wade
 
Yes, it was Wade. There was a manager and an office girl; A foreman, a fork-lift driver and me. There were lots of thefts, break-ins to the portakab type office etc. The railway gave easy access to the site. Wade closed the place down soon after I left.

I'll upload one pic at a time.
 
Cheap immitation layher

Does anyone know the brand names for the cheap layher system circulating australia. It looks like it says MON/EOCon the side blue and white labels.
 
Just completed the said course at Bircham Newton. Must say all 10 candidates on the course were very experienced men within the scaffold Industry. The course focused on TG20:08, practical and theory. I would say the layman would struggle with the course. For £375 + £60 accomodation they would not want to fail.
The tutor Stuart was very good. Now the Advanced course is recognised by the CISRS, I suppose this will be the benchmark for all Inspectors. Dont know how thw site management will get on with it, or will the CISRS just pass them, will be interesting to see the failure rate over time. John Houlihan CMIOSH
 
Just completed the said course at Bircham Newton. Must say all 10 candidates on the course were very experienced men within the scaffold Industry. The course focused on TG20:08, practical and theory. I would say the layman would struggle with the course. For £375 + £60 accomodation they would not want to fail.
The tutor Stuart was very good. Now the Advanced course is recognised by the CISRS, I suppose this will be the benchmark for all Inspectors. Dont know how thw site management will get on with it, or will the CISRS just pass them, will be interesting to see the failure rate over time. John Houlihan CMIOSH

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We failed 4 site managers in the 1st week the course was introduced John
 
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With regard to the Scaffold Inspection Course, I know exactly where your coming from and this Topic has been discussed on other Posts, if Suits are passing the Course that indicates to me that the Course Curriculum is not testing enough---in your view did the Course content cover enough in depth issues ?---or was it to easy ?

Garry...


It doesn't really matter how difficult the course content is, because when the test at the end comes, if you can refer to the paperwork that you've been given during the course for the answers, no one can/should fail.

This is what happened on the Advanced Inspection course that i did a couple of years ago. I've been in the game since the late Seventies and don't claim to know everything about the erection and use of scaffolding, but i do know more than some of the QS's and Architect's that were on the course with me.

Come the test however, and the instructor encouraged the use of the handed out documentation to answer the questions. Most on the course opened the folder and proceeded to copy the answers as required.

Sadly, only myself and one other (another long time Scaffolder), answered the questions from memory. We both passed - but so did all the others of course !

The instructor explained to the group that they almost always got 100% pass rate, i wonder why ??

Obviously they are doing this to help 'sell' their services to companies trying to get this training for their employees, but it completely de-values the training and has serious consequences for the guys working on the scaffolds that they are supposed to be inspecting and signing off.

I completely fail to understand the 'dumming down' of training in the Scaffolding industry. It appears that overseas 'Scaffolders' can arrive on these shore's and after minimal training, be trusted to become fully fledged Scaffolders. Middle and senior management can become Advanced Scaffolding Inspectors by parting with a few hundred quid and copying the answers to the final test from a folder, whilst all the time the HSE people (of whom i am also one), bleat on about falls from height being a major cause of accidents in this country.

Every time that i hear about a Scaffold collapse, i think of the failure that must have happened at some point in the Scaffolds design, erection, use or dismantling, to cause that collapse to occur. Other than in very, very extreme weather conditions, the fault lies with someone involved with the supply or use of the Scaffolding in the first place and if we as a country allow poorly trained people to erect the stuff and fraudulently trained 'managers-of-something-else' to inspect and advise on the stuff, we are only going backwards in the industry - and remember, as the dumming down of standards occur, you will all find a general dumming down of your wage packets occuring. Anyone noticed that ?

Please note, that the above does not apply to all in the industry and there are some 'top notch' comanies out there, but it does apply to a great number of them and i'm sure that most of you have come across them over the years.

End of the rant for today. Stay safe and don't become a statistic for the wrong reasons.

Cheers J[/QUOTE]
These comments also apply to part 1 and 2 courses,during the written test at the end answers are basically available for candidates to copy or tell each other. Absolute joke when your paying £900 for each course.The instrutors are not really interested,and this results in some candidates passing part 2 with out any real knowledge or experince of the job!
 
portfolio

Hi all, first time on here for me so soz for silly questions! Im trying to sort out my portfolio after doing my part 1 in 2003 its now time for me to do part 2 but im trying to get hold of the relevant paper work for me to start filling in! can anyone shed some light please????? thanks
 
Hi Mate

In answer to your question, was the course too easy? yes I think it was. No disrespect to the professional construction managers on the course, but their knowledge of scaffolding was limited at best and yet they all ended up passing the course and holding a qualification that allowed them to inspect very complicated scaffold structures. I've been in the industry over 30 years on both the practical and management side and complicated design structures need good knowledge and experience to inspect properly. Whilst the instructor was good the course content was weak and far too short. The course never even touched on anchor ties or testing regimes for anchor ties for example, yet the tying system is an important part of the scaffold structure.
 
Everything and anything to improve the industry in which we work.
 
There is a design section that may get a better response if you post it there.
Good Luck.
 
I can help you here. I work in the construction industry and I know how this works.
Chances are your builder has sub-contrcted the scaffolding to a specialist scaffolding company. Look on the scaffold, if it has a signboard, note the number, if not, ring the builder and get their number direct. The builder has probably off-hired the scaffold but the scaffolding co are too busy to take it down.
Next, ring the scaffolders direct and give them say 2 days to remove it or you know of another company who will take it down and dispose of it as it is now tresspassing on your property.
Be fim and don't back down, I guarantee it will be gone.
In the building industry it's generally the people who shout loudest that get the best service.
Let me know how


"Chances are the builder has sub contracted the scaffolding to a specialsit scaffolding company"

Woh thats a good statement!! Considering you have to be a scaffolder to put up independent scaffolding. Post must be from a chippy who has not found a site for carpenters are us!! Unless the major builder was using trestles to put a two storey building up!! :D:D
 
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