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Ok so we are a fairly small time firm doing little jobs here and there locally but have just been offered a large job that will definately be requiring some design input. It's not required for a good few months yet but the catch is he wants a ball park price by Monday? The job has been up before years ago and tie points are still in the walls. Anyway what I really want to know is what sort if cost should I be adding on to allow for the design side of things?

Any ideas/info much appreciated.
 
Phone one of the designers on here and they will be able to give you a rough price.
 
Look for a local engineer that can see the job personally as emailing size,weight and other factors can be a pain the assss.if the tie in points have been there years there's no guarantee they're suitable anymore.
 
It's only an inquiry at this stage.

Phone a designer, email plans if you have them and as many photos as you can, unless it's something completely out of the ordinary a site visit will not be necessary.
Your designer will let you know if there is any need for a site visit and how much he will charge you.
Advice is generally free but site visits aren't.

Assume all the tie points are fecked until you get up there.
 
This is where swiftys wrong,you need an engineer to look at the job personally.how many time have you sent measurement,weights,plan and what the use is and all you get back I off the engineer is a drawing that doesn't take into consideration especially (refineries and stations) pipe work ,catwalks and steelwork for instance and after you've put an extra 40 beams in just to get over these problems you've lost time and money because the engineer washes his hand of it because all you sent was pictures and a description of what you want.if the engineer is with you when you price the job he has to take blame.
 
It applies to all design jobs DONKEY you stick to your pine ends and fronts of houses.you cover you ass.
 
You don't need to prove how thick you are, we had a rough idea anyway.
Read the 1st post to yourself slowly and out loud and see if you can understand his situation.
Then ask yourself "Does he want to pay a designer for a site visit when he hasn't even got the job yet"
All he wants to know is how much to allow for the design and an indication of what will be going into the job.

Keep licking those windows son.
 
Swiifty,stop repeating yurself,I heard the first time.:laugh::laugh:
 
Hi

We can give you a quotation if you give us a call.

We are based on south coast though you would be best to find a local designer as the costs of the visit will be less.

Where is the job. ?
 
Swifty is spot on DONKEY , the fella just needs an idea of cost at this stage so he can tender , you stick to orange boiler suits , rigger boots and smoking huts and leave the real jobs us ;)
 
If it's a street job ciggies cost around £8 you can usually fit enough design input on the back. :D
 
came across this quite a lot when i was in business luce submit your quote and state plus additional design costs and if they want the price of the design cost first bare this in mind this is not a definite that you have the contract and make them aware of any lay out will be invoiced to them the design will not break the bank and quite sure a local architect will be able to help you out scc
 
Its had to fully understand exactly what ur after price wise tbh if its just the cost of drawings tgh they can range on average from £350 for such as a generic loading bay to in excess of 2k for complex shores etc, normal temp roofs circa 5-800.
You can price a job as a guesstimate without them, but be carefull as the desighner doesnt normally see it the same way as you & its very easy without the desighn to get the price wrong - for instance you may just in ur minds eye see the job as a few days work for a crew of è, only to find the drwg needs more work than 1st thought...so dont be too concervative wiv it.
also just because previous ties have been left in the wall doesnt mean the they are either in the right place or once tested even come up to ur desighns loadings & so would av to be done again so price accordingly.
u cant be too carefull wiv desighn job pricing wivout the drwgs-rather price to high & risk losing the job than price too low & risk losein everthing.
 
What if those existing ties were signed off by previous designer, calcs wouldnt have changed surely.
 
Doesnt quite work like that check out TG4:04 it'll give u all the info you need @ the very least you'll need to get them tested. Bearing in mind they were used for a previous scaffold that might av required a differnt twst load or indead been drilled and never tested, the important part of any desighn job is it needs to stick to the desighn , not ur interpretation of that desighn to save a few quid, best allow for retesting & re installation of them in your quote, thats one of the differnces between being a micky mouse dont give a shiiit company or trying to stick to the regs & doin it right,one things for sure -god forbid anything went titss up on the job youd wish that you had.
 
Piece of mind...install new ties.
Rather have a building that looks like swiss cheese than it fall over and kill someone.
 
you must be aware that old existing ties are not to be used at all although its common practice for most scaffs to retap into them all buildings are designed to move and are common to subsidence and then then brings the integrity of the tie into question as this is not e permanent fixture to the building COVER YOUR ARSE NO ONE ELSE WILL
 
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