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Do you back the public sector pention strikes ?

For me I say Fuuck them we don't get top end pentions but we pay the higher rate of tax ! Well if you lucky to be on a good paying job !

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Police SGT wants to retire at 50 ????:mad::mad::mad:
 
your not letting this one go are you andy.they actually pay into their pensions its not free.theres more to the story than meets the eye.longer hours
 
**** them all , i should feel sorry for them and want them to get it but i dont , i have no pension other than what i provide for myself. Not to mention that their fuckin pensions are black holes anyway , all their money is who knows where being invested by who knows by on who knows what , the unions are currently trying to get low paid workers upto a minimum £7:20 an hour in glasgow and elsewhere , get these people sorted out first , the apathy of non public sector workers and their own tough situation leads to no sympathy for these people and the fuckin labour gov increased public sector jobs to a fuckin dangerous level , hee haw council workers, job centre workers , admin staff who contribute nothing to society and serve the machine and now complain and want sympathy from us/me , fuckoff

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great post jb , well said
 
dont condemm them because they have the balls and brains to be unionised hence the pension something we should all be getting but as scaffs are too quick to stab their mate in the back for a sunday shift that will never happen,we reape what we sowe.
the attack on the public sector workers is an old tory ploy,privatise everything so we all work for their pals who shut evrything and move what they can abroad,were they can pay even ******* less out but we still pay top rate for the service.
british gas,british telecom,all the water companies apart from scottish water the airports the norht sea oil and gas ripping us off to **** and they were all public sector not any more :mad:
 
everything u said there sounds right. My personal opinion on job centre/council admin people is their lucky to have some ******** office job on the wages they get nevermind the pension , they do **** all and contribute nothing as do people who work in call centres and any telesales people , scum , the lot of them.
 
If you look at the basics of this arguement....

Unions aren't happy their members will have to work longer
Their members will have to put more money into their pensions

Ring any bells? They need to get into the real world.
How many of us are better off or even as well off as we were five years ago?
How many of us have pensions where we aren't going to get what we thought we would?

Public sector pensions pay out more on average than private schemes and they are going to cripple this country if something isn't done about it.

If the public sector don't like their public sector pensions, tell them to withdraw their pension and put it into a private scheme
 
Haha DaftScaff have i posted this one before LOL
I dont loose sleep over it but when a copper stand's on the 10PM news and say "I want to put my feet up at 50 and get a big lump every week" thats what gets me.
I agree they pay into it but so do we ie high tax's for what most scaff's will end up with a STATE PENSION....... So i think you should get out what you put in IE pay high tax's get paid a good lumpa pay the min and pick up the min ????????
 
dont condemm them because they have the balls and brains to be unionised hence the pension something we should all be getting but as scaffs are too quick to stab their mate in the back for a sunday shift that will never happen,we reape what we sowe.
the attack on the public sector workers is an old tory ploy,privatise everything so we all work for their pals who shut evrything and move what they can abroad,were they can pay even ******* less out but we still pay top rate for the service.
british gas,british telecom,all the water companies apart from scottish water the airports the norht sea oil and gas ripping us off to **** and they were all public sector not any more :mad:

Think you will find that this was a ploy heavily used and implement by the last Labour administration too...Whom by the way the Unions backed to the hilt.

I have no sympathy for the public sector worker, they are having to experience the REAL world like all of us who actually contribute.

I would DARE one of these people to look me in the eye and tell me they want better pensions and retire earlier WITH a decent pension and all along want ME/US to pay for it whilst still expecting me/us to work till the age of 68.

The plain fact is as a society we are living longer, its as easy as that, live longer...pay more....
 
Have to agree with PW on this one . Up here in sconny botland just about everyone and their granny works for the council or some government job . Its unsustainable and why Scotland could not survive on its own .If you don`t like the conditions of your job then get a new job . It will take a lot more pension cuts and pay freezes before these people walk away from their cushy numbers . My wife is a primary school teacher constantly on holiday or of for in service days , how the hell can a man get to look at decent porn when the misses is constantly hanging about the house .
 
I do support the public sector as they are a benchmark for what happens in the private sector as regards working relationships .....
As I would also support fellow construction workers who were having there present rights eroded ....
Just looking for fair play for which I have my own opinion ..,.
Each to there own
 
I worked in the recruitment sector for years supplying staff to private and public sector. It was fact that the salaries within the Council/Government bodies and the Universities are a minimum of 10-15% more that within the public sector in Devon (where i am) and even more in other areas. This is FACT based upon studies by independent bodies and government and me providing over job offers to both temporary and permanent positions within both sectors.

In my opinion they should make a wide scale adjustment into salaries within regional variances in accordance to the local area/demand then leave the current pension scheme alone. I have no qualms with someone within government getting 20k a year, if the job within "smith and smith" pays the going rate (20k a year). But i object to the governmental employee getting 28k for the same job.

Salaries have been a gravy boat for too long.
 
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Have to agree with PW on this one . Up here in sconny botland just about everyone and their granny works for the council or some government job . Its unsustainable and why Scotland could not survive on its own .If you don`t like the conditions of your job then get a new job . It will take a lot more pension cuts and pay freezes before these people walk away from their cushy numbers . My wife is a primary school teacher constantly on holiday or of for in service days , how the hell can a man get to look at decent porn when the misses is constantly hanging about the house .

I wanted to argue your comment about everyone working for the council but after a bit of thought I came to the conclusion that your right which is shameful. Worse still, when they have restructured our voting system to ensure that no one is in absolute charge meaning ever more councils are now run by a coalition meaning even more talks and red tape and even less action, if that's possible. I don't want to see anyone's employment rights eroded but as the money in the pot dwindles we all have to tighten our belts which ever sector you work in.

How about forgetting political correctness for a bit and maning up to the social scroungers of our society and taking the benefits of them and give a bit more to our pensioners who have grafted all their days and really new what it was like to go without. As for the coppers who want to retire at 50, don't expect my support.
 
all long term jobless , 1yr or more , should be given another 6 months to find a job , if they dont , they should get nothing,nada, see how long it takes for them to get a job then.

I go to my local bookies and see all the ***** that my/your tax goes on keeping in their cushy benefits , example: stupid **** wasted through alcoholism,drugs , best part of £800 a month in benefits and rent paid and whatever else , this **** has more money than me , not to mention he has a flat and i cant get one , the apathy towards these ***** by the working man is gonna keep increasing until our attitudes/beliefs regarding these people are so strong that maybe we'll bring back eugenics and do a bit of cleansing
 
Agreed, the social fund should only be used in an emergency, not replace the main bread winner of the household.
 
i seen on rt(a decent news channel) this morning that 50% of people under 24 yrs old in greece are unemployed , thats where were heading , after that fuckin chaos
 
Why drag someone down for fighting for their rights.??It wouldnt make me smile to see them come into the "real world."
 
Hopefully not. They are definitely reaping what they sowed, years and tears of high wages and little and in most cases no tax as each successive government bought their vote with more and more inducements. A bit of the reason why I am struggling to support the public sector strikes.

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Why drag someone down for fighting for their rights.??It wouldnt make me smile to see them come into the "real world."

I wouldn't want to drag anyone down Frederik but some hard choices are being made the world over. I would far rather see our pensioners get it.
 
Our Pensioners should get what they deserve anyway.
40+ years of paying Tax for what? A dingy flat, no heating and barely enough money to have Beans on Toast for dinner for the rest of your life...

Murderers, Terrorist, Rapists and Paedophiles get better treated then our OAP's do.
And its not only a disgrace, its absolutely disgusting! :mad:
 
Iv Worked All My Life In The Construction Trade, From The Age Of Fifteen To Fifty I Dont Qualify For Any Benefits Why ? Cause Im Self Employed A Nice Little Govt Get Out Clause, Wonder What Would Happen If I Stopped Paying Tax And National Ins? Plus She Who Must Be Obeyed Works So That Fekks That She Would Have To Keep Me.
 
The angle I'm coming from is, I don't have a problem with workers standing up for their rights and expecting to be treated fairly, decently and recompensed to a reasonable limit for the works they undertake.

What I have a massive problem with is this section of our work force (On the whole public sector) who want to have a higher than inflation pay raise, basically a final salary pension (And doesnt want to contribute any more, which is frankly ridulous) and want to retire prior to the age of to 68, whilst all the time expecting me (The person who pays their salaries and for endless perks) to duly work till that age and keep plowing in my taxes and N.I. and end up with a state pension, (Because the one I've paid into is probably going to be worthless at 68) in poverty and most likely have to carry on working to keep our heads above water....While the Retired Public Sector worker whom I CARRIED all my life is sunning it up on some Carribean Cruise...

Because that is exactly what is going to and indeed has already happening, there are 2 tiers of Pensioners NOW!! Those poor souls (Much respected) who toiled all their lives and have very little to show for it, or the ex teacher/bobby/fireman/librarian who live a very comfortable life in retirement.

Thats not what its all about....
 
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