Staggering Ledgers

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I have always kept the ledger sleeves in the same bay all the way up but made sure the hand rail sleeves where in a different bay so there was at least one solid tube through the sleeved bays. Never had any troubles and always been the way the boys have worked around me. Been told that a lot of sites are now wanting ledgers and handrails sleeved so they are all in seperate bays??
 
when you say in the same bay all the way up do you mean that all your sleeve ledgers are in the same bay all the way up because if so they should be staggered.
 
I would be looking for staggered ledgers with the collar ( sleeve ) no more than 6" from the node point---if staggering on a particular bay cannot be achieved for what ever reason---splice with a butt and two set...I M H O
 
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I try to stagger my ledgers on each lift.
Handrails come where they come, but if i can stagger those also, then all good and well.
 
spannerbitch said:
I have always kept the ledger sleeves in the same bay all the way up but made sure the hand rail sleeves where in a different bay so there was at least one solid tube through the sleeved bays. Never had any troubles and always been the way the boys have worked around me. Been told that a lot of sites are now wanting ledgers and handrails sleeved so they are all in seperate bays??
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Morning Spannabitch,
staggering of joints in ledgers has always been the norm. However; this pre dates the requirement for guard rails to be installed and left in position throughout the job period.
Now with the guardrail left in, if the guardrail joints are not in the same bay as your ledger joint this is acceptable as the guardrail is then providing the continuity.
That being said I would still stagger the joints.
regards
Alan

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Garry Adams said:
I would be looking for staggered ledgers with the collar ( sleeve ) no more than 6" from the node point---if staggering on a particular bay cannot be achieved for what ever reason---splice with a butt and two set...I M H O
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Morning Gary,
Where joints are necessary they should be within one third of the ledger span.
But as you indicate the closer to the node the better
regards
Alan
 
Stagger the ledgers...I had done the same with staggering the handrail years ago, but the inside ledger is not staggered. Starting off with a short ( 1 bay only ) ledger every other lift is the way to go and keeping the stagger uniform.
 
Always stagger the ledgers, great until you come to % strip and re-erect, then you spend ages tidying the scaffold up
 
stagger the ledgers as well as the standards amazing how many times you have to look over the side of the scaffold to remember what ledger you put on the lift below unless you have a good memory ha ha!!! as for handrail as celtic says any way you want amazing how many scaffolders turn the sleeve round so you dont get caught on the sleeve bolts!! i always wonder why you dont get caught on the doubles ha ha!!
 
Good evening Alan

Quite correct 1/3 rd being the Maximum recommended length, however, hard task Masters and Overseer's during my SGB days has indoctrinated me with the Maximum tolerance of the tube available---However, the optimum yield cannot always be achieved thus 1/3 being acceptable.

I must say that I enjoyed our meeting at your office and thanks for the tea and biscuits---I liked your set up ( keep it simple and plenty of tonnes ) and your yard was spot on ( one like's to see an empty yard Eh ;) )

I am still in Aberdeen at the moment, however, I'll pop round to Al Quaz with the chocolate digestives on my return to Dubai.

Best regards

Garry...
 
Ledgers and standards staggered is how we were taught.

Saying that 95% of jobs i see on streets up here are not and all standards are topped on the same lift ! Quality
 
Thanks for your input guys. Always interesting to see what others think.
 
always renenber to stagger was how i was tought and i do it well,sometimes bouncing off walls with my hands in my pockets :eek:
 
haha happy, never stagger with the mits in the sky rocket, a recipe for disaster.
 
Once nearly got the sack for demonstrating to a cheeky young fecker why you do not walk around sites with your hands in your pockets

I only pushed him into the site road, two foot deep in mud, :eek:h:
 
Different days then ,sacking was only threatend because the lads ,dad was forman, supervisor over-ruled him ,said I did right :bigsmile:
 
my hands were never oot my pockets when in the pub with my mentors a custom that sadly seems to have died a death or at least wi all the wee baw bags that i have tryed to educate:mad
but then again going by the last post maybe i shouldnt bother:
 
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