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lazz
2nd December 2010, 06:34 PM
Hi i am new to the forum. I would be greatfull if someone could help me out here.I fell from the kicker lift while building a scaffold kwickstage only about 2 ft from the ground but got a nasty injurey.I had 3 planks in place what i need to know is were 3 planks ok to work from while erecting and where can i get a copy stating this.Im pretty sure the minimum working platform requires 3 planks would be greatfull if someone could advise me.

phil181
2nd December 2010, 06:37 PM
Hi i am new to the forum. I would be greatfull if someone could help me out here.I fell from the kicker lift while building a scaffold kwickstage only about 2 ft from the ground but got a nasty injurey.I had 3 planks in place what i need to know is were 3 planks ok to work from while erecting and where can i get a copy stating this.Im pretty sure the minimum working platform requires 3 planks would be greatfull if someone could advise me.

Are you in the UK mate?

James..Redcar
2nd December 2010, 06:38 PM
hi i am new to the forum. I would be greatfull if someone could help me out here.i fell from the kicker lift while building a scaffold kwickstage only about 2 ft from the ground but got a nasty injurey.i had 3 planks in place what i need to know is were 3 planks ok to work from while erecting and where can i get a copy stating this.im pretty sure the minimum working platform requires 3 planks would be greatfull if someone could advise me.

i thought the permitted gap was now 1 board, to enable clipping on.. As you were on the kicker, clipping on would not come into play.. Did you have any guard rails on... Its all about preventing a fall, wether it be 6inches or 60 foot.

lazz
2nd December 2010, 06:44 PM
no from ireland.

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It happened a couple of years ago but am still not right after the fall.

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Had no guard rail in place never used them at that height.

Urban monkey
2nd December 2010, 06:46 PM
I understand that if it is 4 boards between standards you need 3. If it 5 boards wide you need four. Never more than a 300mm gap. What bout adv h/r ha ha

James..Redcar
2nd December 2010, 06:46 PM
no from ireland.

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It happened a couple of years ago but am still not right after the fall.

a couple of years ago? i was thinking of SG4 .05... FOR THE 4 BOARDS ON A 5 BOARD LIFT.. with the advent of steps and advanced guard rails, its all about minimising traversing, like i said efforts must be made for fall prevention, (6inches or 60 ft up)

lazz
2nd December 2010, 06:53 PM
I know the safety offiser on site told us to use a minimum of 3 boards or planks while erecting or striking but i need to be sure on this as there is leagal proceedings involved here.

James..Redcar
2nd December 2010, 06:58 PM
I know the safety offiser on site told us to use a minimum of 3 boards or planks while erecting or striking but i need to be sure on this as there is leagal proceedings involved here.

Sorry mate i'm not clued up enough to give you advice for you to act on it legally... wish i was...:embarrest:

lazz
2nd December 2010, 07:05 PM
I wonder would i get it in some code of practice for erecting quickstage scaffold.

allan666
2nd December 2010, 07:07 PM
planks , fooking hell your obviously not a qualified scaffolder so shouldnt of been erecting scaffold . i think you are talking about the 1st sg4 with 3 boards . but if your not a scaffolder you shouldnt of been erecting it . 2foot what were you doing practising back flips

lazz
2nd December 2010, 07:16 PM
I was quilifed allen but i dont want to go into to much detail on it.I had done scaffolding for more than 8 years was just unlucky some other scafflolder had put a dodgy plank in place and i got the backlash of it

allan666
2nd December 2010, 07:27 PM
quilified . i think id like to be quilified it sounds like some new legal high or crack . sorry mate your spellings bad for even a scaffolder . ireland has different laws and regulations and is pretty far behind the rest of us on safety . you will be better off talking to a good solicitor and your union if your in one .

XxIANxX
2nd December 2010, 07:33 PM
Hi i am new to the forum. I would be greatfull if someone could help me out here.I fell from the kicker lift while building a scaffold kwickstage only about 2 ft from the ground but got a nasty injurey.I had 3 planks in place what i need to know is were 3 planks ok to work from while erecting and where can i get a copy stating this.Im pretty sure the minimum working platform requires 3 planks would be greatfull if someone could advise me.

Are/were you a qualified scaffolder
Was there a risk assessment and method statement, if so did you read it , sign onto it and work to it.

brandy
2nd December 2010, 08:06 PM
Lazz. the Irish code of practise for access and working scaffolds changed on 1st jan 2009, so if your accident occured after that, that is the one you need for the guidelines. If it happened prior to that, you need the earlier version, If you want to pm me I will let you have the relevant copy. The are not legal documents, guidelines only. The working at height regulations (which are law ) changed in 2007, the 2m rule went and instead any height which a person was liable to fall requires fall protection, As this covers the period of your accident, It would be advisable to get legal advice.

lazz
2nd December 2010, 08:19 PM
Thanks very much for your reply brandy,that is exactly what i was looking for nice find someone helpfull more than i can say for some.

James..Redcar
2nd December 2010, 08:31 PM
Thanks very much for your reply brandy,that is exactly what i was looking for nice find someone helpfull more than i can say for some.

i wonder who he means...allan.. lol.

celticbhoy
2nd December 2010, 08:36 PM
lol

SWIFTY
2nd December 2010, 08:51 PM
planks , fooking hell your obviously not a qualified scaffolder so shouldnt of been erecting scaffold . i think you are talking about the 1st sg4 with 3 boards . but if your not a scaffolder you shouldnt of been erecting it . 2foot what were you doing practising back flips

Love it ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:laugh::l augh::laugh::laugh:

XxIANxX
2nd December 2010, 09:00 PM
allan stop being a plank :D

allan666
2nd December 2010, 09:28 PM
ok i am a plank , i must be a plank , because i think your a plank , and if i think your a plank then you must think im a plank , but if you call a board a plank then you are a plank . you see how it works now bright eyes

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and by the way i think my advice was pretty sound as far as this plank is concerned

steve gregory
2nd December 2010, 09:34 PM
Be nice ffs.

allan666
2nd December 2010, 09:40 PM
Be nice ffs.
i didnt think i wasnt being nice , the irish brickie did . i was only joking and she started bitching me . different country different humour maybe

James..Redcar
2nd December 2010, 09:41 PM
i didnt think i wasnt being nice , the irish brickie did . i was only joking and she started bitching me . different country different humour maybe

I agree mate, washington is a different country...lol.

Rigger
2nd December 2010, 09:43 PM
Lazz

you say legal proceedings are taking place in this matter,your solicitor should commission a report from an expert that is conversant with the H&S legislation that applied at the time he will testify as to on how many boards should have been used in this instance.

for your part you were working under instruction from the site H&S advisor to use a minimum of 3 boards, and that the injury occured due to a faulty or failed board placed there by others.

I am afraid that litigation for damages can take many years and cost thousands of pounds.With the result that if you do not win you can be left to pay your costs

I hope you get some redress for the injury you sustained

brandy
2nd December 2010, 10:09 PM
My thoughts too Rigger, A good solicitor you would think could source all the relevant codes and WAH regs that applied at the time, instead of the person having to look for that himself.

allan666
2nd December 2010, 10:12 PM
My thoughts too Rigger, A good solicitor you would think could source all the relevant codes and WAH regs that applied at the time, instead of the person having to look for that himself.
thats what i was trying to say . god im not very good at this am i doh

aom
2nd December 2010, 10:14 PM
Another reminder of the real reason we have a **** load of paper work and carry an ever increasing amount of ancillary equipment to prevent accidents. We all moan about the things they make us wear and do but this is exactly why.(and oh yes to stop you hurting yourself)

Lazz,

This is not a personal dig at you and your situation, I too wish you well with your case but it's an ill wind if we can't hold up your current situation to inform others.

Good Luck

Poledancer
3rd December 2010, 05:28 PM
Lazz if its compensation youre after, then you have many avenues to go down. were you trained to carry out the work you was instructed to, was the other scaffolder who brought injury to you trained, did he have his own insurance or was he covered under the company's insurance. If so then the company are vicariously liable for youre injury, for competency and not providing a safe place of work ie the dodgy board. At the end of the day Lazz as ive found out over the years the injured person will always get a pay out unless they carry their own insurance, but wed never have enough scaffolders if we made sure everyone we took on worked under their own insurance and safe systems.

samlam
28th March 2011, 09:43 PM
:bigsmile:
planks , fooking hell your obviously not a qualified scaffolder so shouldnt of been erecting scaffold . i think you are talking about the 1st sg4 with 3 boards . but if your not a scaffolder you shouldnt of been erecting it . 2foot what were you doing practising back flips

classic mate, exellent:

i love fridays
29th March 2011, 08:45 AM
Its another one !!!!!!!!!!

2 ft wat are you on mate your company should be doing you. You told them you could do the job and you fell off at 2 foot.
Were theres an accident theres a claim, you must of been playing around. Were did you learn your trade ?

Sad this industry is full of lads who fall, though 2 foot. You got to give us your reason mate, to have fallen off doing a system scaffold at 2 foot. ive got to tell the lads this.
Yep just told the lads and i wont say wat they said.
Mate hope your well, They said dont forget to put a cork on your fork b4 you eat in a restraunt, That was one of the trainiees saying that not me and he did ask how long have you been scaffolding ?
2ft im sorry mate. please give us more info so i can stop laughing 2ft.........Hope your on the mend though.

brandy
29th March 2011, 01:35 PM
It's doubtful if you'll get a reply from him as he posted it on 2nd Dec, go back to the begining of the thread and you'll be more clued up as to his explanation, it seems he stood on a dodgy board and it snapped, even at 2ft that can result in injury. Thats why we have the WAHR as it identifies that you can be injured from a fall no matter what height. The cause of the injury in this case was the dodgy board, so we should all take a lesson from that, including the trainee, to check the boards before placing them on a scaffold, whether its at 100ft or 2ft.