should scaffolders take a trade test (1 Viewer)

allan666

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if all companies did this and refused to employ any one who fails . surely this would bring an end to the chancers . we all know cisrs courses are for attendance only . very rare does any one fail . so basically if you got money for the course you can be a scaffolder . if you havent got the money your f*&ked regardless of ability .
 
then the test would have to be divided into sections part 1, basic , advanced and what about experience , which in this game counts for everything
 
Lets be honest. A card doesn't make the man. Yes a trade test needs to be brought in, but accross the board, not only for new starts. I have seen too many "advanced" scaffs coming offshore, then stating "I don't do hangers / overside".I have just finished working with one who couldn't tie a ladder. If every company was to check all their workforce the chancers would be weeded out. However the companies don't care, as you are only an a**e on a seat. They are paid whether you are good at your job or bad.
 
A passport of experiance & skills along with training needs to be developed.

The only problem is getting companies to back it. If there is a quick route most with take it!!

Some how we need to get our industry to help to look after itself & each other before its too late. Skills are going down the tube too many health & safety issues or contractors trying to tell us how to do our job! :nuts:

Ragscaff
 
ragscaff that would be similar to the ipaf wouldnt it you now carry a booklet around with you and get site managers to sign it to show what machine you were using where, when and what for
 
would this test be run by the companys themselves?at a fair expensive id asume,or by a independant body that would specialise in such tests?for me this would be a dangerouse step as such tests could be used inadvertantly to barr men from work,also who would invigilate these tests?the citb would be the only body at present professional enough to run scheme,but in saying all that it is an intresting idea.
 
Lets be honest. A card doesn't make the man. Yes a trade test needs to be brought in, but accross the board, not only for new starts. I have seen too many "advanced" scaffs coming offshore, then stating "I don't do hangers / overside".I have just finished working with one who couldn't tie a ladder. If every company was to check all their workforce the chancers would be weeded out. However the companies don't care, as you are only an a**e on a seat. They are paid whether you are good at your job or bad.

I worked with a bloke for a number of years and he knew how to tie ladders, all i ever saw of him was a butt and some lashing in his hand, very rare was his spanner in his hand. You know who im talking about Dico, the mighty Spot :laugh::laugh:
 
The passport would show your experiance, a record of the work you have done. We all know there will never be a fail safe system but this would record the work you have done. Yes an independant body would have to be involved to record the data & you would also have courses & training attended etc on it.

In my eyes more info than I got my part 1 guv!!
 
I've heard of this happening before on a couple of London firms. They basically get you in the yard and get you to build a few bits (Independant, Stack, Cantilever etc.) then take them back down again and give you a day rate based on how well they thought you did, based on speed and skill.Basically like an audition. Dont know if it still happens though, but I would welcome it as it would stop firms employing blaggers and start rewarding the good 'uns. Definately a good idea!
 
rigblast r the only firm i know who ask u to do a means test regardless of what card your carrying well done rigblast
 
would this only apply to large jobs as on the street work you tend to work in small gangs 2 or 3 handed normally and an ars*hole would be not tolerated for very long as the rest would be carrying him, so its only sh** firms that would employ incompetent men and they dont give a fu** anyway.
 
i think its a good idea,the smeg that got me sacked once sat in the pickup for two hours waiting for the boss to turn up on a job,(13ft two lifts)boss went ape,he couldnt base out on his own.it would sort the slashers out,if they fail the test,they would get a black mark on there name,for everyone to see.:D
 
The passport would show your experiance, a record of the work you have done. We all know there will never be a fail safe system but this would record the work you have done. Yes an independant body would have to be involved to record the data & you would also have courses & training attended etc on it.

In my eyes more info than I got my part 1 guv!!


You can view a persons training/qualifications/tickets and the dates they gained them already - at phoenix online.
 
i had written trade test off rigblast before but that proves nowt does it . talking the job and doing it are two different things . i heard they started doing a trade test on the forth bridge which included going down a dropper and coming back up . i never got that test so i dont know if itsb true
 
cape,rbg,do a written tradetest alan.palmers on bridge take you to top members and you go down a ten foot dropper mate take a tube and hold it,pass it up then get yourself up.

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think they do this because they had to put all there mens money up,so they brought this test in,if you failed you didnt qualify for the better rate.
 
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