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scaffoldingsafetyservices
16th March 2012, 11:20 AM
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ANY NASC MEMBER USING AGENCY STAFF WILL BE STRUCK OFF. COMMENT FROM THE REGIONAL MEETING.

HOW MANY USE HUDSONS. LOOK AT THIS POST.
Attention all scaffolding firms - Hudson Contract blog (http://tinyurl.com/6q4n56c)

Tufcoat Will
16th March 2012, 12:20 PM
Link didnt work for me but i think this is the same one?

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jimbo20uk
16th March 2012, 12:42 PM
I was at last Tuesday's South East regional meeting. The NASC managers brought up this same topic. They warned all of the members present that if they caught anyone using Hudsons or any auther labour agencys, they would immediately kick that company out of the NASC:amazed:

During any auther business 1 member had a right go at the management as said that the members were being financially hamstrung. The ridiculous rule where all memebers had to directly employ 90% of its workforce meant that when tendering for jobs against nonregulated members, an NASC member has a 20-30% financial handicap compared to other nonmembers. All the members clapped their approval, but Robin James & Mel Archer just dismissed his claims and stated you have a choice! if you don't like it you know what you have to do. Some members claimed that last years vote on weather to keep this stupid rule was rigged and demanded a vote by show of hands. Robin James shouted at the members saying their will be no show of hands at this meeting and this subject was not open for discussion. All scaffs no that big companies like Deborah's, Trad & Tone use Hudson's all the time. The NASC only looks after bigger outfits & trainers like Simian ect. the little companies dont get a say or look in. We will be joining the new scaffolding Assoc. because they want to look after their members from an H&S point of view.

steveo south east
16th March 2012, 01:23 PM
Good news for the little man bad news for nasc I hope so!

aom
16th March 2012, 01:28 PM
I don't agree. As far as I can tell the members themselves set the criteria.

landbkid2
16th March 2012, 02:19 PM
Will you resign your NASC membership?
I was at last Tuesday's South East regional meeting. The NASC managers brought up this same topic. They warned all of the members present that if they caught anyone using Hudsons or any auther labour agencys, they would immediately kick that company out of the NASC:amazed:

During any auther business 1 member had a right go at the management as said that the members were being financially hamstrung. The ridiculous rule where all memebers had to directly employ 90% of its workforce meant that when tendering for jobs against nonregulated members, an NASC member has a 20-30% financial handicap compared to other nonmembers. All the members clapped their approval, but Robin James & Mel Archer just dismissed his claims and stated you have a choice! if you don't like it you know what you have to do. Some members claimed that last years vote on weather to keep this stupid rule was rigged and demanded a vote by show of hands. Robin James shouted at the members saying their will be no show of hands at this meeting and this subject was not open for discussion. All scaffs no that big companies like Deborah's, Trad & Tone use Hudson's all the time. The NASC only looks after bigger outfits & trainers like Simian ect. the little companies dont get a say or look in. We will be joining the new scaffolding Assoc. because they want to look after their members from an H&S point of view.

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Will you resign NASC?

scaffoldingsafetyservices
16th March 2012, 07:21 PM
so how many jobs will this cost. how many lads ar on Heathrow at the moment via agencies ect?
how many are working for Grum on the stations?

philliosmaximus
16th March 2012, 07:22 PM
Dont understand why you can use subbie labour :unsure:

Jason-Gibbs
16th March 2012, 07:25 PM
Arrogant f.uckers... they **** me off tbh.

VancouverLeedsLondonBoy
16th March 2012, 08:03 PM
I've been with Hudson's for almost 3 years now, on Trad & Benchmark. Would p1ss me off if I have to go on the books. Much better off as I am.

1969scaff
16th March 2012, 08:25 PM
Have mentioned before about a certain Liverpool firm ,a member of the NASC ,that uses lump(cash in hand)labour all the time!!

john the manc
16th March 2012, 08:40 PM
Dont you think the NASC are shooting themselves in the foot here a bit?

aom
16th March 2012, 08:46 PM
Not really John, and again there is a more than good chance I am wrong but I might have heard somewhere they are obliged to review all their guidance every 5 years as are we all.

landbkid2
17th March 2012, 10:13 AM
The NASC members who are moaning about Hudsons and the like only want to avoid paying holiday pay (29 days) and not to pay for training us the scaffolders. The same applies to non NASC members who only want to employ you as cheaply as possible their only interest is purely commercial. Wake up the guys, no wonder the unions support proper employment!

aom
17th March 2012, 01:47 PM
I have always had the opinion that for any business to flourish you have to invest in your men with regard training and try and pay them accordingly. When I started I got my part 1 paid for as they needed someone to have at least started their training to appease the hse which was acceptable at that time but after that apart from one off shore refresher and a medical I have had to pay for all my training since which I think is wrong. I know there are plenty on here who have done it like I have and just move around wherever the cash is which is fine if that's your bag but for me pay the holiday pay, train your men as best as you can afford and you will reap the benefits. Maybe it only works on a small scale but I feel some firms don't deserve good scaffolders on their books as they have never trained any which is a disgrace.

ragscaff
17th March 2012, 04:59 PM
DSL use 60% contractor labour when they are busy!

New owners should be interesting.

:blink1:

aom
17th March 2012, 09:18 PM
As long as it averages out over the year they will be fine.