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I imagine we have all experienced a few of these;

You submit a design to a large company for a big job, That design goes off to be checked, now sometimes it goes to internal temporary works teams, who vary dramatically in credibility and ability, and sometimes to external structural engineers, some of which has to be walked through the terms 'standards' 'transoms' and 'ledgers' are.

Surely it would be easier and much more beneficial for everybody, even with all the secretive behavior we often experience between design companies, to send your designs off to other scaffold designers. Even though it isn't up to us most of the time. Does anybody know if this could, with the right sort of influence soon become something that would be common practice.

Any thoughts on this? Or should i just keep my winging to myself from now on.
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Whinge, whinge bloody whinge!

The only time I have really had any bother is when the companies internal temporary works team is mostly newly graduated engineers and they do things like assume, because all lifts are boarded, that all lifts are working and should be fully loaded and start coming up with leg loads that look like telephone numbers.
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Ha, if all my winging was made public, you may as well give me my own section.

I don't have much of a problem when it comes to the drawing, It's the calculations that bother me, Like you said, Telephone numbers with enough bearing pressure to punch through Reinforced concrete.

I just think larger companies such as Network rail or Debut should get there third party checks done by somebody who knows scaffolding and it's relevant methods of engineering. Not some, as hypocritical as this will sound, some poor apprentice that hasn't got a clue.
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Do you use a lot of software packages for your calcs?
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Nick, We don't use any.

All done by hand then inputted into an excel spreadsheet. Annoys me to no end, but is the best way to do it.

What do you use, and does it work well for you?

We use simple beam freeware but only because it produces pretty pictures that site agents love to see, Like moths to flames. (that, and it backs up our maths)
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We use similar to you. Only asked because when I was doing a checking service for structures, most of the calcs came from a technician throwing numbers into a program which would then spew results without showing the actual math behind output. Used to annoy me to no end.

Most complicated bit of kit I use is MathCAD and that is only once in a blue moon because I'm the only one in the office that can use it.
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He must be protecting his methods, Which is strange, because there don't seem to be any. I'd use a program but there aren't any good enough for the bespoke jobs,

And if there was it would probably cost a bloody fortune. I'll stick to hand writing thank-you very much.
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We are all fond of a hand calc now and again.
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